CommuterBob  Head Tailgater  Posts: 5,840 | Post: #22 (02-19-2013 04:54 PM)Cubanbull Wrote:(02-19-2013 04:48 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:(02-19-2013 04:32 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:(02-19-2013 04:27 PM)CollegeCard Wrote: This gets confusing. If the league signs with NBC, for the 2013-2014 school year is that only for basketball? Time Warner has NBCSports next to the ESPN family for HD, but not in the basic lineup. NBCSports is still a digital cable only channel for BHN in FL anyway. | ||
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| TripleA Legend  Posts: 59,615  | Post: #23 CC, who cares about casual surfing fans? It's only for one BB season and then everybody is splitting. For those who remain, the deal is so low that a ratings bump won't be that big a deal. Anyway, NBC SN has more homes than ESPNU, and we won't be stuck on ESPN3. And NBC SN is on the same cable tier and channel neighborhood as ESPN. AttackCoog, ESPN has made no formal offer. In the exclusive window, the process is we made a proposal they turned down. This time, they have yet to make an offer, and apparently won't. The BE has made it clear they prefer NBC and will take a stand about the promo features. ESPN probably thinks it isn't worth the battl and won't bid high enough to overcome it. | ||
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| UHCougar Big East Special Forces Posts: 1,872 | Post: #24 (02-19-2013 04:48 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:(02-19-2013 04:32 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:(02-19-2013 04:27 PM)CollegeCard Wrote: This gets confusing. If the league signs with NBC, for the 2013-2014 school year is that only for basketball? Why? If NBC OTA promotes its Big East matchups on NBCSN before the season, and again during its NBC OTA Notre Dame games, you can't asked for more than that . . . don't tell me that college football fans don't know where to find NBC Sports already, or wouldn't be able by the first weekend, . . . it is silly to think so . . . NBC Sports' task will be to put up match ups that are more attractive to the causal fan than the games on ESPN and ESPNU . . . put Tulane v. Memphis against South Carolina v Georgia and it's an epic failure . . . put Houston v UConn or Cincinnait v. Temple against Mississippi State v. Vanderbilt and no reason to believe NBCSN can't pull solid numbers . . . . . . and for those of us old enough to remember when the average sports fan had no idea what ESPN was or where to find it on cable (if you even had cable) . . . finding the channel is the least of my worries . . . (This post was last modified: 02-19-2013 05:07 PM by UHCougar.) | ||
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| TripleA Legend Posts: 59,615 | Post: #25 This bridge contract only covers 2013-14 basketball. ESPN has 2013 football. After basketball season, Louisville and the others are gone. And going forward, the CBS package is only for basketball. | ||
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| EdisonDoyle 1st String Posts: 1,836 | Post: #26 (02-19-2013 04:54 PM)Cubanbull Wrote: Actually its a lot easier now. Direct tv has NBCsports right next to ESPN,espn2 and ESPNU That's good. On my cable, ESPN and II are 35, 36 and NBC is 105 ( or thereabouts; not sure exactly where, to be honest). | ||
| 02-19-2013 05:21 PM |
| coogrfan All American  Posts: 2,969 | Post: #27 (02-19-2013 04:19 PM)UHCougar Wrote:(02-19-2013 04:12 PM)TripleA Wrote: The executive editor for the Sports Business Journal (the ones who have been reporting contract details lately) said on the Tim Brando radio show this morning that he has been told by industry sources that ESPN is highly unlikely to match NBC's offer to the Big East. Rather than match and plug in the BE on ESPNU, it is thought that ESPN will simply slide in more inventory from existing contracts with major conferences. He told this to John Rothstein, who was guest hosting for Brando today. (02-19-2013 04:19 PM)JMSTiger Wrote: Probably for the best to be on NBC/NBCSN and CBS. Especially in light of what TripleA was saying about most of our games being relegated to ESPNU and ESPN3 if we ended up there. (02-19-2013 04:37 PM)mwp1023 Wrote: Im glad, they would treat us terrible and limit exposure. Oh, for God's sake... How exactly do you think ESPN is going to treat the remaining BE schools if we sign with a direct competitor? Here's a hint: check out TWWL's "coverage" (or lack of same) of the NHL some time. | ||
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| Cubanbull Hall of Famer  Posts: 22,617 | Post: #28 (02-19-2013 05:50 PM)coogrfan Wrote:(02-19-2013 04:19 PM)UHCougar Wrote:(02-19-2013 04:12 PM)TripleA Wrote: The executive editor for the Sports Business Journal (the ones who have been reporting contract details lately) said on the Tim Brando radio show this morning that he has been told by industry sources that ESPN is highly unlikely to match NBC's offer to the Big East. Rather than match and plug in the BE on ESPNU, it is thought that ESPN will simply slide in more inventory from existing contracts with major conferences. He told this to John Rothstein, who was guest hosting for Brando today. How are they treating us so far? They hardly ever mention the league. | ||
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| Mestophalies 1st String Posts: 2,013 | Post: #29 (02-19-2013 05:50 PM)coogrfan Wrote: Oh, for God's sake... I think there's a point to be made here. Yes, ESpin will not mention the Big East if they can avoid it. However, in watching their coverage of this conference for the past couple years, they've been increasingly doing just that even while owning the rights to this conference. So to be honest I don't see a loss here at all. Now even though ESpin doesn't mention the NHL in any way they can avoid it, they do still have the NHL listed on their sports page menu and you can find stats, scores, games times and a ton of other stuff. The same will be there for the Big East Conference. They just won't be painting a road map to where it is but then as I've stated previously, they didn't anyway. (This post was last modified: 02-19-2013 05:59 PM by Mestophalies.) | ||
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| coogrfan All American Posts: 2,969 | Post: #30 (02-19-2013 05:53 PM)Cubanbull Wrote: How are they treating us so far? They hardly ever mention the league. Poorly... but don't kid yourself, it can (and will) get much worse if we take our ball elsewhere. Bank on it. | ||
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| Attackcoog Moderator  Posts: 45,141 | Post: #31 (02-19-2013 05:05 PM)TripleA Wrote: CC, who cares about casual surfing fans? It's only for one BB season and then everybody is splitting. For those who remain, the deal is so low that a ratings bump won't be that big a deal. Anyway, NBC SN has more homes than ESPNU, and we won't be stuck on ESPN3. And NBC SN is on the same cable tier and channel neighborhood as ESPN. TripleA, Im just basing that on what McMurphy said. He indicated that NBC was not the high offer--but they were the preferred offer. I dont remember if he said ESPN had the high offer or if I/we just assummed that. ESPN, as the current contract holder and the last bidder, has alot of flexibility. Im still hoping that they work out something that puts a small 5-10 game football pacakge and some basketball on ESPN (hopefully, at a premium price). If something like that can get 10 million out of ESPN and goose NBC into bumping up thier lowball--maybe we can still break the 4 million per team mark. lol...hope springs eternal. (This post was last modified: 02-19-2013 06:09 PM by Attackcoog.) | ||
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| CollegeCard Hall of Famer Posts: 12,102 | Post: #32 It sounds like the level of convenience depends how people are accessing these channels. I don't have satellite so I wasn't aware of the Direct tv lineup. I fully realize UofL is only in the league for one season. I think there may be some over estimation of how many people are aware of NBCSports. I strongly suspect a lot more fans have it and don't even know it compared to ESPNU. And for schools such as UofL, UC, and UConn, the ESPNU appearances were limited anyway. They'll be replacing a lot of ESPN/ESPN2 appearances with NBCSports appearances. It is what it is though, and the league has to get the best it can while looking to the overall package. As mentioned by Cougar, NBC will now need to promote heavily. It'll be very interesting to see what a Memphis vs Cincinnati on NBCSports pulls if it directly competes with a Vandy vs. MSU on ESPN2. I'm not optimistic the better matchup will get better numbers to start but we'll see a year from now. | ||
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| ECMAN79 All American Posts: 3,505 | Post: #33 my guess is ESPN2 would pull the better numbers if it's just a college basketball vs. a college basketball match up. my Direct tV guide says NBC Sports Net is in over 75million homes. I have Direct TV, but don't get NBC Sports Net. It's on the tier that's just above the one I'm subscribed to. I think it's an extra 5 or 6 bucks per month. It's not part of their "sports pak", though I've inquired many times about when it's going to be. | ||
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| GTG Banned Posts: 285 | Post: #34 Um, this potential NBC deal would not go into effect until after July 2014. ESPN holds rights to next year's rights. They change after next year. | ||
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| CommuterBob Head Tailgater Posts: 5,840 | Post: #35 (02-19-2013 11:03 PM)GTG Wrote: Um, this potential NBC deal would not go into effect until after July 2014. ESPN holds rights to next year's rights. They change after next year. Not exactly. The ESPN TV deal for basketball expires at the end of this season (as does the current CBS TV deal). The ESPN deal for football runs through December 2013. So the 2013-2014 season will be on ESPN for football, then NBC/CBS will do basketball. Then in 2014 NBC will have football and basketball and CBS will have some basketball, too. (This post was last modified: 02-19-2013 11:21 PM by CommuterBob.) | ||
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| Sundanceuiuc Hall of Famer Posts: 15,311 | Post: #36 Hang on, will we be on the main NBC network on Saturdays for FB in 2014? | ||
| 02-19-2013 11:19 PM |
| CommuterBob Head Tailgater Posts: 5,840 | Post: #37 (02-19-2013 11:19 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote: Hang on, will we be on the main NBC network on Saturdays for FB in 2014? Perhaps. It remains to be seen as to what exactly is in the NBC offer. Rumor has it that it could have as many as 6 games per season on NBC OTA. It's believed that is why ESPN can't/won't match the offer. | ||
| 02-19-2013 11:21 PM |
| Attackcoog Moderator Posts: 45,141 | Post: #38 (02-19-2013 11:19 PM)Sundanceuiuc Wrote: Hang on, will we be on the main NBC network on Saturdays for FB in 2014? Appearances on NBC-OTA are part of the agreement, how many, how often, and under what circ*mstances has not been disclosed. | ||
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| Frank the Tank Hall of Famer Posts: 19,259 | Post: #39 (02-19-2013 10:50 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote: my guess is ESPN2 would pull the better numbers if it's just a college basketball vs. a college basketball match up. my Direct tV guide says NBC Sports Net is in over 75million homes. This shouldn't be the case. If you have the standard choice package (which is the equivalent of basic cable), NBCSN should be on channel 220 for anyone with DirecTV. You don't need the Sports Pack to access it. | ||
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| Sundanceuiuc Hall of Famer Posts: 15,311 | Post: #40 Good news on the OTA, but could it be more? I can't imagine they won't want a BE game of the week. It's not like NBC has a lot of other properties other than ND football. We could be a nice lead in to an evening ND game or an early game to a late afternoon one... They going to show poker instead? Men's extreme motocross? (This post was last modified: 02-19-2013 11:31 PM by Sundanceuiuc.) | ||
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